5am @ 11:13 | Jul 6, 2025
We don't know yet what AFC knew and might not ever, so it could also have been thought that the investigation was closed after the initial flurry of news back in 2022/3. It wouldn't normally take so long for charges to be brought and with this kind of gap, there's nothing saying that it hasn't been re-opened as a case. All will come to light though and so it should be the principle of innocent until proven guilty applying all round, not just to the court system....
arseblog1 @ 07:12 | Jul 6, 2025
????>>>>>
iclass @ 07:07 | Jul 6, 2025
Reply to ollie:
Non stop rain is welcome today but I can’t drag myself outdoor to sample it.
ollie @ 07:05 | Jul 6, 2025
Non stop rain is welcome today but I can’t drag myself outdoor to sample it.
ollie @ 07:05 | Jul 6, 2025
Reply to iclass:
All very quiet this morning
I don’t think I even drank that much but somehow I ended up very very very pissed.
iclass @ 06:46 | Jul 6, 2025
All very quiet this morning
iclass @ 05:15 | Jul 6, 2025
Reply to cfine26:
I've been going back and forth all day, debating whether or not to write anything here, but I realized that I don't want to just be quiet and move on. Women have swallowed this type of crap of centuri...
Be interesting to see what prompts your second one
cfine26 @ 03:56 | Jul 6, 2025
I've been going back and forth all day, debating whether or not to write anything here, but I realized that I don't want to just be quiet and move on. Women have swallowed this type of crap of centuries and I'm tired of letting the loudest (usually male) voices win out, claiming "innocent until proven guilty" and "here is a random anecdote about some guy I know who was falsely accused and therefore TP should be given the benefit of the doubt." Also, let's get something straight: only ~2-5% of sexual assault allegations are deemed "false". And "false" does *not* = lies/unsubstantiated.
One of the major points I took out of today's post is that we can be really effing disappointed in our club. I'm a Cubs fan, and when we finally won the World Series in 2016 after 108 years of nothing, it was on the back of Aroldis Chapman, a known wife abuser. The Cubs knew this, and they signed him anyway. Did I cry and cheer and lose my mind when we won? Yes! Absolutely! Did I also feel a horrible heartbreak about the ethics of rooting for someone like that, and what's worse, an entire organization that was basically saying, "we really don't care as long as we win?" Also yes. Sport contains multitudes and involves human beings on whom we put our hopes and dreams yada yada yada but it's 2025 and I'm just so tired of these narratives. If TP hadn't playing the way he has for us the past few seasons, he would've been kicked to the curb when these allegations came out and we all know it. Grow up if you think the world works otherwise. And look at the Diddy verdict if you think justice actually gets served in these cases.
It's time for more accountability, and I'm so grateful to Blogs for writing what he did (I've been reading since ca. 2009 and I've never commented before - what a reason to start, huh?). We get to be mad at our club for this bullshit and we get to demand that they hold their players to a standard of decent human being. End of story.
One of the major points I took out of today's post is that we can be really effing disappointed in our club. I'm a Cubs fan, and when we finally won the World Series in 2016 after 108 years of nothing, it was on the back of Aroldis Chapman, a known wife abuser. The Cubs knew this, and they signed him anyway. Did I cry and cheer and lose my mind when we won? Yes! Absolutely! Did I also feel a horrible heartbreak about the ethics of rooting for someone like that, and what's worse, an entire organization that was basically saying, "we really don't care as long as we win?" Also yes. Sport contains multitudes and involves human beings on whom we put our hopes and dreams yada yada yada but it's 2025 and I'm just so tired of these narratives. If TP hadn't playing the way he has for us the past few seasons, he would've been kicked to the curb when these allegations came out and we all know it. Grow up if you think the world works otherwise. And look at the Diddy verdict if you think justice actually gets served in these cases.
It's time for more accountability, and I'm so grateful to Blogs for writing what he did (I've been reading since ca. 2009 and I've never commented before - what a reason to start, huh?). We get to be mad at our club for this bullshit and we get to demand that they hold their players to a standard of decent human being. End of story.
gooder @ 03:13 | Jul 6, 2025
I'm loving the new rebooted Arsecast intro, Blogs. A lovely little bit of electric pep in there.
dennis_b10 @ 23:23 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to dennis_b10:
Bravo. Same basic laws apply both based on English Law.
dennis_b10 @ 23:14 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to segalty:
This is not the USA
segalty @ 21:53 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to dennis_b10:
Sorry to see our Tomi go, such a shame he suffered from a series of awful injuries while with us. Best of luck to him in all future endeavours, on or off the field.
As for the Partey situation, I li...
dennis_b10 @ 20:49 | Jul 5, 2025
Sorry to see our Tomi go, such a shame he suffered from a series of awful injuries while with us. Best of luck to him in all future endeavours, on or off the field.
As for the Partey situation, I like most of us don't know the details but I understand that the club believed and supported their player. He is, as the law states, innocent until proven guilty, but multiple women and multiple accusations? No a good look. We all know that very rich, young players are potential targets for extortion scams but WTAF was he thinking? Clearly not the sort of character Arsenal should be associated with/ Given he is 32 the contract should have just expired. Move on
That being said, I have little faith in the judicial system especially in these types of cases, but unfortunately it is the best system we have. P-Diddy just got away with what looked to me like a litany of sex crimes and OJ cut his ex-wife's head off and got away scot-free.
As for the Partey situation, I like most of us don't know the details but I understand that the club believed and supported their player. He is, as the law states, innocent until proven guilty, but multiple women and multiple accusations? No a good look. We all know that very rich, young players are potential targets for extortion scams but WTAF was he thinking? Clearly not the sort of character Arsenal should be associated with/ Given he is 32 the contract should have just expired. Move on
That being said, I have little faith in the judicial system especially in these types of cases, but unfortunately it is the best system we have. P-Diddy just got away with what looked to me like a litany of sex crimes and OJ cut his ex-wife's head off and got away scot-free.
gooder @ 20:33 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to lettraggad:
Riesse Nelson is going .. and Id rather sell Trossard than Martinelli.
northbankfc @ 20:26 | Jul 5, 2025
Al Nassr are willing to pay £73m for Gabriel Martinelli according to Ben Jacobs, senior football correspondent of Give Me Sport. Isn't that the site with all the pop-ups and sensational claims? Still, if there was any truth to that, hands, bites and amputations would spring to mind.
lettraggad @ 20:00 | Jul 5, 2025
Riesse Nelson is going .. and Id rather sell Trossard than Martinelli.
lettraggad @ 19:58 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to northbankfc:
Vieira can go, Reiss-Nelson can go, Trossard can go before Nwaneri. And, if the right bid came along, I'd be ok with Martinelli going too, as long as we get Eze and a busy winger/striker like Lookman....
dennis_b10 @ 19:45 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
France had a foul for a very similar tackle.
England should have taken their chances.
dennis_b10 @ 19:44 | Jul 5, 2025
Pardon my manners...well in Bruce cunt
myleftwingfoot @ 19:44 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to dennis_b10:
Seemed like a tackle from behind but the goal was given.
England should have taken their chances.
dennis_b10 @ 19:43 | Jul 5, 2025
Seemed like a tackle from behind but the goal was given.
dennis_b10 @ 19:42 | Jul 5, 2025
Could be written off for a foul.
myleftwingfoot @ 19:41 | Jul 5, 2025
2-0, England collapsing
dennis_b10 @ 19:41 | Jul 5, 2025
Arse
France score again. Three Lions look more like Three Walruses
France score again. Three Lions look more like Three Walruses
hazza @ 19:40 | Jul 5, 2025
France score
rockymtn_gooner @ 19:33 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to goldsoundz:
Not sure why we continued to try to extend Partey though unless the club in its own due diligence are convinced of his innocence.
And yet, assuming that's true, the contract extension talks leave pretty much only two possible conclusions:
1. The checked, and it appeared more likely than not that he's innocent. Seems hard to believe that given what's out there.
2. The club found out either negative or uncertain info, and went ahead anyway, nevermind how it looks. This option is very damning to Arsenal leadership.
gooder @ 19:33 | Jul 5, 2025
In any case... just get the damn striker!! Getting that move right will forgive practically any other business we do this window but getting it wrong (or worse, not doing it at all) and anything good we do this window will be irrelevant and forgotten.
The striker is the linchpin of this window.
The striker is the linchpin of this window.
myleftwingfoot @ 19:19 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
Russo scores. 1-0
myleftwingfoot @ 19:18 | Jul 5, 2025
Russo scores. 1-0
gooder @ 19:14 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
Read David Ornstein's tweet that we have agreed personal terms with Madueke. Also saw Romano state that Nwanieri is an option for Chelsea. Damn if that happens
myleftwingfoot @ 19:13 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gooder:
Herzog is a master. He can take a subject like that where you pretty much know from the off what the outcome is going to be and make it enthralling throughout.
gooder @ 19:10 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
'Man posted bear selfie day before he was mauled'
Didn't need to read anymore, but I did.
Has anyone seen the documentary film "Grizzly Man"? Another stupid bastard.
myleftwingfoot @ 19:04 | Jul 5, 2025
Should be 1 up.
afc1974 @ 18:56 | Jul 5, 2025
I see you are already speaking of victims. Until the allegations are proved in a court of law, there are no victims. Unless we already live in 1930's Soviet Union.
northbankfc @ 18:47 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to lettraggad:
Nwaneri might be loaned out if we are buying rightsided winger AND Eze . I’m guessing to palace although If I could plan moves we get EZE and Viera goes there .
lettraggad @ 18:45 | Jul 5, 2025
Nwaneri might be loaned out if we are buying rightsided winger AND Eze . I’m guessing to palace although If I could plan moves we get EZE and Viera goes there .
gooder @ 18:39 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to lukas:
As an Arsenal and Bologna fan, I am a huge fan of Tomiyasu so really sad to see him leave the club. Wishing him all the best in the future, and I hope he can somehow get back to fitness and play profe...
For such a decent and hard-working fellow his career trajectory is a tragedy. I really hope he can finally overcome his injury issues and get back to playing again.
nik @ 18:36 | Jul 5, 2025
If we sell Nwaneri, blogs can eat a bowl of concrete
myleftwingfoot @ 18:26 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to goldsoundz:
Not sure why we continued to try to extend Partey though unless the club in its own due diligence are convinced of his innocence.
gooder @ 18:24 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
Are we targeting Eze, a winger - Madueke/Rodrygo and a striker?
citizenerased1 @ 18:24 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to goldsoundz:
Not sure why we continued to try to extend Partey though unless the club in its own due diligence are convinced of his innocence.
shrek2be @ 18:23 | Jul 5, 2025
Are we targeting Eze, a winger - Madueke/Rodrygo and a striker?
gooder @ 18:22 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gooder:
That's probably try for most of us... but ask yourself, how comfortable would you feel if you were facing such accusations and were ostracized from your office for it?
(imagine, just for a moment, th...
+true
goldsoundz @ 18:22 | Jul 5, 2025
Not sure why we continued to try to extend Partey though unless the club in its own due diligence are convinced of his innocence.
gooder @ 18:22 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to s.p2:
I’m not sure I’d be comfortable seeing a colleague facing accusations of that magnitude continually working in the office.
(imagine, just for a moment, that the accusations turned out to be false but the club had thrown the player to the wolves at the first opportunity. that's the flip-side of all of this)
goldsoundz @ 18:19 | Jul 5, 2025
Please tell me the Madueke stuff is not true. He’s not a difference maker ima title challenge and I’d argue we have more effective players already.
As for Partey it’s disappointing to be involved with a person accused of such heinous crimes but surely need to allow for due process. We’ve seen this amount to nothing often.
As for Partey it’s disappointing to be involved with a person accused of such heinous crimes but surely need to allow for due process. We’ve seen this amount to nothing often.
lettraggad @ 18:18 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
There he is , Madueke's dad right on cue ;-)
myleftwingfoot @ 18:08 | Jul 5, 2025
Hopefully, the women can cheer me up tonight.
Williamson, Mead, and Russo start.
Williamson, Mead, and Russo start.
gooder @ 17:56 | Jul 5, 2025
I was also taken aback by the cynicism of the justice system yesterday, almost implying that even if he is found not guilty he's still guilty. That's such a slippery slope.
If he's guilty, throw the book at him, but if he's not...?
If he's guilty, throw the book at him, but if he's not...?
tosvenson @ 17:52 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
Basically, the same as what they've just spent on Gittens; we're facilitating their purchase of Gittens.
gooder @ 17:52 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
I'm not sure I've ever disagreed with anything as much on the blog as I do with the 'take' on part 2 of the blog.
I don't know whether he's guilty or not. But putting him on gardening leave or sacking...
My honest opinion is I'd been quietly hoping Saudi would come in and buy the player, to take the rumbling clouds from over our heads, but without a buyer there was not a lot the club could've have done differently. However, the expiring contract was an obvious opportunity to easily part ways. Trying to extent it was a significant mistake under the circumstances.
tosvenson @ 17:49 | Jul 5, 2025
We need to improve our scouting - I think if we bought Madueke for 28M, most wouldn’t mind. Haven’t watched him enough to know what he’s good at but we need to take buying these players before they are 50m.
We have two more forward signings to pick from. Hopefully, it’s gets exciting.
We have two more forward signings to pick from. Hopefully, it’s gets exciting.
myleftwingfoot @ 17:47 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to citizenerased1:
£50m on a bloke who doesn't move the dial on the quality of the first team and who eats Nwaneris minutes
Dirty business.
kleinfeld @ 17:43 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to citizenerased1:
£50m on a bloke who doesn't move the dial on the quality of the first team and who eats Nwaneris minutes
Dirty business.
hazza @ 17:42 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to ey_:
*waves @ hazza*
Wow! A blast from the past! Hope you're well..
hazza @ 17:40 | Jul 5, 2025
When the ballot has been run for the above fixture, we will make every effort to notify you of the Ballot results via email, it remains your responsibility to check your purchase history for Ballot results.
What fuckery is this?? How hard is it to send you an email saying that you are successful or not in a ballot?!
They're quick to charge you if you are successful though, cunts!
What fuckery is this?? How hard is it to send you an email saying that you are successful or not in a ballot?!
They're quick to charge you if you are successful though, cunts!
citizenerased1 @ 17:33 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to lettraggad:
People need to fucking chill Madueke is a very good winger, I find it strange because he plays on the right mainly but he is skilful as fuck. I wonder if people actually watch games .. there are ques...
Dirty business.
gooder @ 17:29 | Jul 5, 2025
very well said, Blogs, on both counts
gooder @ 17:25 | Jul 5, 2025
late catching-on-on-sleep Arse!
Bruce!
fun
https://youtu.be/jLWiu0cqMcE
and funner
https://youtu.be/9v7RVkPZkls
and still fun
https://youtu.be/HC6QJsxRypQ
bravo to whoever scheduled that lineup, well done!
Bruce!
fun
https://youtu.be/jLWiu0cqMcE
and funner
https://youtu.be/9v7RVkPZkls
and still fun
https://youtu.be/HC6QJsxRypQ
bravo to whoever scheduled that lineup, well done!
kleinfeld @ 17:16 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to lettraggad:
People need to fucking chill Madueke is a very good winger, I find it strange because he plays on the right mainly but he is skilful as fuck. I wonder if people actually watch games .. there are ques...
myleftwingfoot @ 17:10 | Jul 5, 2025
The summer began with great promise. Yet at the first hurdle, the club defaults, like a Pavlovian response, to doing the easy deal down the road.
So little ambition and daring do, we just return to the same place for the cosy, comfortable slippers.
So little ambition and daring do, we just return to the same place for the cosy, comfortable slippers.
lettraggad @ 17:10 | Jul 5, 2025
People need to fucking chill Madueke is a very good winger, I find it strange because he plays on the right mainly but he is skilful as fuck. I wonder if people actually watch games .. there are questions around him Chav fans turned on him so there’s something going on in attitude department.. but he Jackson and Palmer are the best players at Chelsea . He can be purchased at a good fee which will allow us to do more he is a good dribbler fast and only 23 and has a high ceiling I don’t understand the outrage ..
kleinfeld @ 16:59 | Jul 5, 2025
I wonder if any of these Charles watts types are going to ask Arteta what the fuck is the deal with signing all these Chelsea bums
Or would that cause Arteta to take the hump
Or would that cause Arteta to take the hump
kleinfeld @ 16:56 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to citizenerased1:
madueke from chelsea could become the first forward we've signed on a permanent deal since july 2023 when we signed......havertz from chelsea.
gooder @ 16:52 | Jul 5, 2025
0x100
gooder @ 16:52 | Jul 5, 2025
0xFF
citizenerased1 @ 16:50 | Jul 5, 2025
madueke from chelsea could become the first forward we've signed on a permanent deal since july 2023 when we signed......havertz from chelsea.
myleftwingfoot @ 16:47 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to pip:
He is an upgrade on Sterling
pip @ 16:46 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
I think most people are in favour of upgrades, especially in the forward positions, which is why we got excited about Eze.
However, most don't see Meduake as an upgrade on anyone currently at the clu...
myleftwingfoot @ 16:45 | Jul 5, 2025
I think most people are in favour of upgrades, especially in the forward positions, which is why we got excited about Eze.
However, most don't see Meduake as an upgrade on anyone currently at the club.
Wirtz, Gittens, Barcola, Kvaratskhelia.
Meduake.
However, most don't see Meduake as an upgrade on anyone currently at the club.
Wirtz, Gittens, Barcola, Kvaratskhelia.
Meduake.
tosvenson @ 16:44 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to abee:
the ratio might be lower in the uk but in my country im sure of the ratio
Mainly my point is let justice take its due course. Dont tarnish a person until he is proven guilty at which point u can cast...
Rape is notoriously hard to prove and far more people get away with it than are falsely accused. Women get sexually assaulted on a daily basis but you only hear about footballers because are high profile. I am certain that more than 2 people died on Spanish roads 2 days ago but you only heard about Jota and is brother(RIP).
kleinfeld @ 16:40 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to pip:
Remember when Arsenal internet lost their shit over Ramsdale. Same people cried when he left
catfishstgermain @ 16:36 | Jul 5, 2025
Saliba and Saka's contracts up in a couple of years aren't they?
Maybe Madueke and Mosquera aren't being buoght as squad players.
Maybe Madueke and Mosquera aren't being buoght as squad players.
pip @ 16:27 | Jul 5, 2025
Remember when Arsenal internet lost their shit over Ramsdale. Same people cried when he left
bassarse @ 16:26 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
Yeah if you aren't an arsenal fan who wants the club to win something
They're not listening to me.
kleinfeld @ 16:12 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to bassarse:
The piss-boiling will be so exquisite it will almost be worth signing him for that alone.
bassarse @ 16:07 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
What the fuck are we doing. It will really fuck me off if we sign yet another Chelsea cunt
myleftwingfoot @ 16:06 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
Goes back earlier with Galas and Peta.
kleinfeld @ 16:01 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
Goes back earlier with Galas and Peta.
myleftwingfoot @ 16:00 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
Wonder what the plan is with Nwaneri. If they are signing Madueke/Rodrygo to be a winger that can play on both sides and then Eze plus Dowman eventually being given opportunities, wonder if Nwaneri is...
myleftwingfoot @ 15:59 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
2019/20: David Luiz
2020/21: Willian
2022/23: Jorginho
2023/24: Havertz
2024/25: Sterling
2025/26: Kepa/Madueke
shrek2be @ 15:59 | Jul 5, 2025
Wonder what the plan is with Nwaneri. If they are signing Madueke/Rodrygo to be a winger that can play on both sides and then Eze plus Dowman eventually being given opportunities, wonder if Nwaneri is looking at all this and wondering about his game time.
shrek2be @ 15:55 | Jul 5, 2025
2019/20: David Luiz
2020/21: Willian
2022/23: Jorginho
2023/24: Havertz
2024/25: Sterling
2025/26: Kepa/Madueke
2020/21: Willian
2022/23: Jorginho
2023/24: Havertz
2024/25: Sterling
2025/26: Kepa/Madueke
northbankfc @ 15:36 | Jul 5, 2025
Throughout all the whispers, allegations, legal censoring, all I had seen was a few text exchanges from the footballer and his then girlfriend. I didn’t feel I wanted to look into it, I kind of brushed it under the carpet. I liked him as a player, a lot! And even at the later stages, I kept some kind of belief it would all prove to be hot air. Tbh that was incredibly naive of me, and if I was in a position of influence, or connected with Arsenal in an official capacity, I’d be dragged through the coals for that.
I still don’t know the details of the separate charges. No doubt this will all come out, but to those who took the time to look into it and have made their decision that he’s guilty as charged, I guess you can feel a little bit above the accusations of shame and fury currently being directed at Arsenal fans who continued to support the player. Even if, for me, I only ever wanted to focus on his footballing ability, days like yesterday bring it into focus.
I know it’s not in any way comparable to anyone who suffers rape or any kind of sexual assault, but the way football fans, or celebrity fans for that matter seem to get embroiled in the story makes it hard to have any civil discussion about that. For some, civil discussion be damned, fury, outrage, revenge, hatred is directed at anyone who is seen as in any way seeking to lessen the rage. It’s a sad day for Arsenal, for football and for this messed up society which seems to lend itself to these spectacles of the grotesque.
I still don’t know the details of the separate charges. No doubt this will all come out, but to those who took the time to look into it and have made their decision that he’s guilty as charged, I guess you can feel a little bit above the accusations of shame and fury currently being directed at Arsenal fans who continued to support the player. Even if, for me, I only ever wanted to focus on his footballing ability, days like yesterday bring it into focus.
I know it’s not in any way comparable to anyone who suffers rape or any kind of sexual assault, but the way football fans, or celebrity fans for that matter seem to get embroiled in the story makes it hard to have any civil discussion about that. For some, civil discussion be damned, fury, outrage, revenge, hatred is directed at anyone who is seen as in any way seeking to lessen the rage. It’s a sad day for Arsenal, for football and for this messed up society which seems to lend itself to these spectacles of the grotesque.
kleinfeld @ 15:34 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
The thing about buying a backup for Saka implies that Arteta will rotate him but he rarely does. He runs Saka into the ground just like he does the same to Rice/Gabriel/Saliba/Timber and White earlier...
shrek2be @ 15:28 | Jul 5, 2025
The thing about buying a backup for Saka implies that Arteta will rotate him but he rarely does. He runs Saka into the ground just like he does the same to Rice/Gabriel/Saliba/Timber and White earlier.
citizenerased1 @ 15:27 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
Going for Madueke/Eze implies that one of Martinelli/Trossard or both are leaving
shrek2be @ 15:26 | Jul 5, 2025
Going for Madueke/Eze implies that one of Martinelli/Trossard or both are leaving
kleinfeld @ 15:25 | Jul 5, 2025
Get this through your thick fucking heads arsenal - WE DONT WANT ANY MORE CHELSEA CUNTS *
*Unless it's cole palmer
*Unless it's cole palmer
litterpicker @ 15:24 | Jul 5, 2025
In my view, there is no doubt that Arsenal acted wrongly.
TP should have been suspended on full pay as soon as the allegations surfaced. This is standard practice when it involves potential serious criminal acts. I don’t recall an outcry when the BBC took this course of action when allegations against Huw Edwards arose. It was a decision widely regarded as the correct one and not seen by them, or regarded generally, as a presumption of guilt.
Maybe I’m in the minority on here, but, back in my working days, if one of my employees had become embroiled like TP then I would, without hesitation, have honoured his contract but asked that they remain absent from the workplace until the matter was resolved. That would have shown the best possible duty of care both to him and all my other staff.
That Arteta chose to continue playing him has, in my view, brought considerable reputational damage upon the club.
TP should have been suspended on full pay as soon as the allegations surfaced. This is standard practice when it involves potential serious criminal acts. I don’t recall an outcry when the BBC took this course of action when allegations against Huw Edwards arose. It was a decision widely regarded as the correct one and not seen by them, or regarded generally, as a presumption of guilt.
Maybe I’m in the minority on here, but, back in my working days, if one of my employees had become embroiled like TP then I would, without hesitation, have honoured his contract but asked that they remain absent from the workplace until the matter was resolved. That would have shown the best possible duty of care both to him and all my other staff.
That Arteta chose to continue playing him has, in my view, brought considerable reputational damage upon the club.
citizenerased1 @ 15:23 | Jul 5, 2025
Remember when Arteta said he had goosebumps about the transfer window? And here we are signing Kepa, Noni and Norgaard.
We'll be about £135m deep after those lads and Zubi. We'll then get a centre forwards tops and window done.
We'll be about £135m deep after those lads and Zubi. We'll then get a centre forwards tops and window done.
shrek2be @ 15:13 | Jul 5, 2025
Read online that Nwanieri shares the same agent as Saka.
citizenerased1 @ 15:10 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
'Strong relations with CFC' 🤮
How about we do our own thing?
This club is addicted to easy, convenient deals.
If Nwaneri leaves lol.
shrek2be @ 15:08 | Jul 5, 2025
We really should not be strengthening Chelsea
myleftwingfoot @ 15:06 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
HandofArsenal saying Rodrygo will not move to Saudi and his preference is to come to the PL to us specifically IF we can agree a deal with Real Madrid.
rockymtn_gooner @ 15:06 | Jul 5, 2025
Madueke in the abstract isn't a terrible option. But I can't get behind all the Chelsea deals. And this does make me more concerned about the situation realtive to Nwanieri.
shrek2be @ 15:05 | Jul 5, 2025
HandofArsenal saying Rodrygo will not move to Saudi and his preference is to come to the PL to us specifically IF we can agree a deal with Real Madrid.
shrek2be @ 15:03 | Jul 5, 2025
I think Madueke would have been an interesting signing had he not been tainted by Chelsea
catfishstgermain @ 15:03 | Jul 5, 2025
If i was a young player looking for a new deal, i would not sign for the club spending big money on worse players that play in my position.
myleftwingfoot @ 15:01 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
What the fuck are we doing. It will really fuck me off if we sign yet another Chelsea cunt
Such low-effort, low-hanging fruit deals.
catfishstgermain @ 15:00 | Jul 5, 2025
Just still feels like we're the soft touch out there
kleinfeld @ 14:59 | Jul 5, 2025
What the fuck are we doing. It will really fuck me off if we sign yet another Chelsea cunt
myleftwingfoot @ 14:58 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to catfishstgermain:
https://x.com/David_Ornstein/status/1941508121811353814
WHat the fuck? A right winger who isn't as good as either Saka or Nwaneri. Fuck is this club doing thesedays.
How about we do our own thing?
This club is addicted to easy, convenient deals.
shrek2be @ 14:58 | Jul 5, 2025
Read David Ornstein's tweet that we have agreed personal terms with Madueke. Also saw Romano state that Nwanieri is an option for Chelsea. Damn if that happens
hazza @ 14:53 | Jul 5, 2025
Villareal 5th Aug - H Pre-season friendly
Athletic Bilbao - H 9th Aug Emirates Cup
Just announced
Athletic Bilbao - H 9th Aug Emirates Cup
Just announced
catfishstgermain @ 14:51 | Jul 5, 2025
Yeah we gave Tomiyasu a short extension when he was already fucked. Gave Elneny an extra year to just bum around the place. Can't really accuse the club of sacking players off too early.
...we really can't accuse them of that right now
...we really can't accuse them of that right now
mrswoo @ 14:49 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to malaisegooner:
Out of the five stages of grief, I'm only at the denial stage.
I thought Tomiyasu would be afforded the 'Santi treatment' but alas.. 😭
pip @ 14:48 | Jul 5, 2025
Mads
myleftwingfoot @ 14:48 | Jul 5, 2025
As if this fucking miserable day couldn't get any worse.
catfishstgermain @ 14:47 | Jul 5, 2025
https://x.com/David_Ornstein/status/1941508121811353814
WHat the fuck? A right winger who isn't as good as either Saka or Nwaneri. Fuck is this club doing thesedays.
WHat the fuck? A right winger who isn't as good as either Saka or Nwaneri. Fuck is this club doing thesedays.
lettraggad @ 14:46 | Jul 5, 2025
Via Athletic Arsenal just agreed terms with Madueke.
rockymtn_gooner @ 14:35 | Jul 5, 2025
This is a tough one. I think most of us would like to think that in supporting Arsenal, we support a club with higher standards than some others out there.
And while on the balance it looks very bad for Partey, it's not unreasonable to have some level of discussion about what the club should have been doing for the last couple years.
At least most here seem in agreement that offering him a new contract was stupid. That seems to me a really undefendable move by the club if it wants to be seen as ethical and a strong supporter of women. And it really makes me disappointed.
And while on the balance it looks very bad for Partey, it's not unreasonable to have some level of discussion about what the club should have been doing for the last couple years.
At least most here seem in agreement that offering him a new contract was stupid. That seems to me a really undefendable move by the club if it wants to be seen as ethical and a strong supporter of women. And it really makes me disappointed.
citizenerased1 @ 14:33 | Jul 5, 2025
Gittens to Chelsea confirmed for best part of £50m....
Welcome Noni!!!
Welcome Noni!!!
gunner13 @ 14:27 | Jul 5, 2025
Well said, all of it. On the second part, the club as a whole need to revisit their "non-negotiables" and take a hard look at themselves.
Sadly, throughout the sporting world athletic ability often outweighs all kinds of misdeeds off the pitch, court, etc. That has to change.
Sadly, throughout the sporting world athletic ability often outweighs all kinds of misdeeds off the pitch, court, etc. That has to change.
malaisegooner @ 14:15 | Jul 5, 2025
Out of the five stages of grief, I'm only at the denial stage.
I thought Tomiyasu would be afforded the 'Santi treatment' but alas.. 😭
I thought Tomiyasu would be afforded the 'Santi treatment' but alas.. 😭
malaisegooner @ 14:10 | Jul 5, 2025
Arse.
Thanks for the heads-up, Blogs. I did stop halfway through the piece and ducked out.
Thanks for the heads-up, Blogs. I did stop halfway through the piece and ducked out.
bassarse @ 14:07 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
Anyway bassarse promised me it won't happen, so I'm going to put my trust in him...
brucelee4ever @ 14:04 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to brucelee4ever:
Definitely not, Grizzly Adam’s.
brucelee4ever @ 14:04 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
'Man posted bear selfie day before he was mauled'
Didn't need to read anymore, but I did.
Has anyone seen the documentary film "Grizzly Man"? Another stupid bastard.
myleftwingfoot @ 14:01 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to iclass:
I think there’s a candidate for the 2025 Darwin Award
“Man posted bear selfie day before he was mauled
An Italian man who was mauled to death by a bear while on a motorcycling trip in Romania took s...
Didn't need to read anymore, but I did.
Has anyone seen the documentary film "Grizzly Man"? Another stupid bastard.
chickpea @ 13:57 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to catfishstgermain:
Would stop being devils advocate i reckon
chickpea @ 13:54 | Jul 5, 2025
Truly amazing the length some people here are ready to go to defend the right to a new multi-million contract of a guy who has been accused by 5 different women.
Thanks blogs, and some others, for your sensible words and effort on this subject. Thoughts to the victims, hope this little step will help them to find some peace.
Thanks blogs, and some others, for your sensible words and effort on this subject. Thoughts to the victims, hope this little step will help them to find some peace.
brucelee4ever @ 13:49 | Jul 5, 2025
I’m watching Seven Psychopaths, I was hooked in the first two minutes.
gmgooner @ 13:48 | Jul 5, 2025
Blogs: Truly a vexing issue for the club, they have a duty of care for employees, those accused before determined guilty or not guilty and the rest of the employees. For me following the legal process is critical but sounds like it’s hard to get a rape conviction in the UK. Although uncomfortable with him in the side for the last three years I don’t fault the club for playing him until the legal proceedings concluded, not sure they had another choice, legally. Where I do find fault with the club is trying to extend his contract with these accusations. The club chose to do that which has nothing to do with the legal process. That I cannot support and with that one aspect, it is a dark day for the club.
tceyes @ 13:22 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
Five women - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn858080e9xo
The charges are related to three of them
tceyes @ 13:20 | Jul 5, 2025
What a difficult day. I don’t envy your task of writing a view on this, blogs.
I’ve tried to stay away from all the speculation and ‘news’ on this story over the years but, if guilty, it is a heinous crime and he should be rightfully punished.
While we need to protect their identity, I thought it was three (not five) alleged victims, with two of them closely connected to him.
Some people with money and fame believes that entitles them to ‘power’ and right to do what they like, with whoever they like - that should never be the case. Equally, I have seen lots of women attracted to such men and willing to do whatever to get a piece of the action, and react badly when they don’t get that attention.
I do feel for the victims, but it is conceivable TP is the victim. If so, is it hard to say that what the club did is so wrong?
I have no answer to what the truth is in this situation, but the club chose to stick by their employee, (mainly as it was in their interest to have him continue playing).
Again, just to caveat this, if he’s guilty, it’s a fucking shit show, and throw the book at him. If there has been enough evidence to suggest this, then the club, if aware of it, should have worked with the PFA and the Met and CPS to find a solution to suspend him in a way that wouldn’t jeopardise his trial.
I do wonder if the contract extension negotiations was just a smokescreen, or genuinely wanting him to stay. Given all the noise around the situation, there was no way he could or should have been allowed to stay.
What a horrible situation and I feel for Blogs, and all us readers however strongly opinionated whichever side of the fence you fall here.
I’ve tried to stay away from all the speculation and ‘news’ on this story over the years but, if guilty, it is a heinous crime and he should be rightfully punished.
While we need to protect their identity, I thought it was three (not five) alleged victims, with two of them closely connected to him.
Some people with money and fame believes that entitles them to ‘power’ and right to do what they like, with whoever they like - that should never be the case. Equally, I have seen lots of women attracted to such men and willing to do whatever to get a piece of the action, and react badly when they don’t get that attention.
I do feel for the victims, but it is conceivable TP is the victim. If so, is it hard to say that what the club did is so wrong?
I have no answer to what the truth is in this situation, but the club chose to stick by their employee, (mainly as it was in their interest to have him continue playing).
Again, just to caveat this, if he’s guilty, it’s a fucking shit show, and throw the book at him. If there has been enough evidence to suggest this, then the club, if aware of it, should have worked with the PFA and the Met and CPS to find a solution to suspend him in a way that wouldn’t jeopardise his trial.
I do wonder if the contract extension negotiations was just a smokescreen, or genuinely wanting him to stay. Given all the noise around the situation, there was no way he could or should have been allowed to stay.
What a horrible situation and I feel for Blogs, and all us readers however strongly opinionated whichever side of the fence you fall here.
kleinfeld @ 13:19 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to brucelee4ever:
Anonimous
pip @ 13:17 | Jul 5, 2025
Calvert Lewin too
pip @ 13:16 | Jul 5, 2025
I think he would link up well with Calvert Lewis
*runs and hides*
*runs and hides*
brucelee4ever @ 13:13 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
"what a fucking noni-sense signing this Chelsea cunt has turned out to be"
kleinfeld @ 13:13 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to pip:
Come on the headline potential is great!
Gets a late equaliser
“Noni Holder”
When he comes back from injury
“Like a Noni signing”
A writer’s dream 😂
shrek2be @ 13:10 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
Five women - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn858080e9xo
The charges are related to three of them
pip @ 13:09 | Jul 5, 2025
Come on the headline potential is great!
Gets a late equaliser
“Noni Holder”
When he comes back from injury
“Like a Noni signing”
A writer’s dream 😂
Gets a late equaliser
“Noni Holder”
When he comes back from injury
“Like a Noni signing”
A writer’s dream 😂
arseblog1 @ 13:06 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to pip:
Looking forward to calling him Mads?
pip @ 13:06 | Jul 5, 2025
Looking forward to calling him Mads?
arseblog1 @ 13:05 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to viegunner:
blogs, how do you personally feel about madueke
arseblog1 @ 13:03 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to ey_:
Thank you for the blogpost, blogs, and for your clear critical and moral stance. I was lurking and saw Ollie's comment yesterday, and what you two wrote sums up very well the degree of sadness, anger ...
arseblog1 @ 13:02 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to paulo:
3 women actually
The charges are related to three of them
brucelee4ever @ 12:58 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to iclass:
I couldn’t help thinking about the Twix advert when I read the article
iclass @ 12:57 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
"He got off the motorcycle and offered the bear food."
He did indeed
viegunner @ 12:54 | Jul 5, 2025
blogs, how do you personally feel about madueke
brucelee4ever @ 12:53 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
"He got off the motorcycle and offered the bear food."
He did indeed
kleinfeld @ 12:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to iclass:
I think there’s a candidate for the 2025 Darwin Award
“Man posted bear selfie day before he was mauled
An Italian man who was mauled to death by a bear while on a motorcycling trip in Romania took s...
He did indeed
iclass @ 12:39 | Jul 5, 2025
I think there’s a candidate for the 2025 Darwin Award
“Man posted bear selfie day before he was mauled
An Italian man who was mauled to death by a bear while on a motorcycling trip in Romania took selfies with the animals before the fatal attack. Omar Farang Zin had posted photos and video of bear encounters while riding along Romania’s Transfagarasan highway the day before his death.
Romanian authorities said he got off his motorbike and tried to feed a bear, local news outlets reported, before it dragged him into a ravine. Later, authorities told Romanian news outlets they found pictures and close-ups on his phone of a bear approaching.
Armand Chiriloiu, director of the Arges Forestry Directorate, told Observator News: “He got off the motorcycle and offered the bear food. The Italian tourist’s phone was also found, which contained some pictures prior to the attack. With the bear approaching... pictures, close-ups.”
“Man posted bear selfie day before he was mauled
An Italian man who was mauled to death by a bear while on a motorcycling trip in Romania took selfies with the animals before the fatal attack. Omar Farang Zin had posted photos and video of bear encounters while riding along Romania’s Transfagarasan highway the day before his death.
Romanian authorities said he got off his motorbike and tried to feed a bear, local news outlets reported, before it dragged him into a ravine. Later, authorities told Romanian news outlets they found pictures and close-ups on his phone of a bear approaching.
Armand Chiriloiu, director of the Arges Forestry Directorate, told Observator News: “He got off the motorcycle and offered the bear food. The Italian tourist’s phone was also found, which contained some pictures prior to the attack. With the bear approaching... pictures, close-ups.”
paulo @ 12:38 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
Jeez
No one is 'assuming guilt'.
paulo @ 12:37 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
Oh sorry, I guess these five unconnected women just got together in their witch's coven ...
Give me a break
citizenerased1 @ 12:32 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
Madueke is a poor man's Jeremy doku, who himself is a poor man's gervinho
iclass @ 12:32 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
Buckle up!
citizenerased1 @ 12:30 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
Wait till we actually sign Madueke, then the shit will hit the fan
ey_ @ 12:28 | Jul 5, 2025
*waves @ hazza*
hazza @ 12:26 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to ey_:
Thank you for the blogpost, blogs, and for your clear critical and moral stance. I was lurking and saw Ollie's comment yesterday, and what you two wrote sums up very well the degree of sadness, anger ...
Is that you?
arseblog1 @ 12:23 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
Madueke is a poor man's Jeremy doku, who himself is a poor man's gervinho
kleinfeld @ 12:23 | Jul 5, 2025
Madueke is a poor man's Jeremy doku, who himself is a poor man's gervinho
arseblog1 @ 12:21 | Jul 5, 2025
Buckle up!
iclass @ 12:20 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
Wait till we actually sign Madueke, then the shit will hit the fan
arseblog1 @ 12:19 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to iclass:
Well TP has certainly killed any discourse regarding new CF signings
arseblog1 @ 12:19 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to spanishbill:
...son on the Partey issue a year ago. Same ending,.
And on that note, ta-ra. Have a nice day.
iclass @ 12:17 | Jul 5, 2025
Well TP has certainly killed any discourse regarding new CF signings
udi_the_tisch_8998 @ 12:13 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to udi_the_tisch_8998:
There should be something in all the contracts about contacts not befitting an employee of Arsenal Football Club. Although frankly offering him a new contract is not conduct befitting an also employe...
ey_ @ 12:10 | Jul 5, 2025
Thank you for the blogpost, blogs, and for your clear critical and moral stance. I was lurking and saw Ollie's comment yesterday, and what you two wrote sums up very well the degree of sadness, anger and disappointment that I have been feeling for a while vis a vis the club (that can be mapped on to football as a whole, but I think one wishes that the club that one support "we" are better, and as Ollie wrote, it is apparent that it is not the case).
What comes to my mind with regard to the club's actions (or lack thereof) in this case, is also Arteta's equivocating reaction to the Jenni Hermoso/Rubiales case. I admire many of Arteta's qualities, but I think since then it has been sadly clear that career/sporting success is more important than moral considerations, which I find deeply disappointing.
Anyway, thanks again blogs, and I hope that something in our society/ies shifts drastically and some point so that people do not have to face this violence, and the subsequent conspiratorial victim blaming.
*sadwaves*
What comes to my mind with regard to the club's actions (or lack thereof) in this case, is also Arteta's equivocating reaction to the Jenni Hermoso/Rubiales case. I admire many of Arteta's qualities, but I think since then it has been sadly clear that career/sporting success is more important than moral considerations, which I find deeply disappointing.
Anyway, thanks again blogs, and I hope that something in our society/ies shifts drastically and some point so that people do not have to face this violence, and the subsequent conspiratorial victim blaming.
*sadwaves*
udi_the_tisch_8998 @ 12:10 | Jul 5, 2025
There should be something in all the contracts about contacts not befitting an employee of Arsenal Football Club. Although frankly offering him a new contract is not conduct befitting an also employee.
...Actually, my brother's mate is a lawyer for Arsenal. I'm going to ask him if there isn't something like that in the contracts.
...Actually, my brother's mate is a lawyer for Arsenal. I'm going to ask him if there isn't something like that in the contracts.
kleinfeld @ 12:09 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to viegunner:
re Mendy: [...] The Premier League club stopped paying him in September 2021, shortly after he was charged, though the manager, Pep Guardiola, was a character witness at his first trial, where he desc...
viegunner @ 12:07 | Jul 5, 2025
re Mendy: [...] The Premier League club stopped paying him in September 2021, shortly after he was charged, though the manager, Pep Guardiola, was a character witness at his first trial, where he described Mendy as a “really good boy”. [...]
funny, can't remember outrage back then. and that was after mendy was charged in court, and he was accused by six women
funny, can't remember outrage back then. and that was after mendy was charged in court, and he was accused by six women
kleinfeld @ 12:05 | Jul 5, 2025
Anyway bassarse promised me it won't happen, so I'm going to put my trust in him...
kleinfeld @ 12:04 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to citizenerased1:
Love shopping in Chelsea's clearance store don't we? The faint rumours Nwaneri might fuck off too don't sit any better.
spanishbill @ 12:03 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to spanishbill:
I don't normally comment here. I was drawn to this one because I had quite a bad tempered argument with my adult aon on the
And on that note, ta-ra. Have a nice day.
citizenerased1 @ 12:01 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
How about we discuss the fact that these Madueke rumours won't fuck off
spanishbill @ 12:01 | Jul 5, 2025
I don't normally comment here. I was drawn to this one because I had quite a bad tempered argument with my adult aon on the
ollie @ 12:00 | Jul 5, 2025
Arse. WiB.
Once more, top work blogs!
Off out to enjoy beers with good people. Laters folks.
Once more, top work blogs!
Off out to enjoy beers with good people. Laters folks.
kleinfeld @ 11:59 | Jul 5, 2025
How about we discuss the fact that these Madueke rumours won't fuck off
spanishbill @ 11:56 | Jul 5, 2025
And there we are, stuck at the ethical intersection between law and PR
arseblog1 @ 11:51 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to saps:
1. All my posts have noted the severity of the crime
2. I have insisted severally that he should face punishment if found guilty
3. You raised a point about "a coven"
4. I referenced the Mendy case
...
viegunner @ 11:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to citizenerased1:
I understand his player profile was still on the site up until yesterday morning. Who knows?
spanishbill @ 11:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
Oh sorry, I guess these five unconnected women just got together in their witch's coven ...
Give me a break
Still, that doesn't justify paying lip service to the principles of law.
saps @ 11:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
I never said otherwise.
But we're talking about very serious crimes and you're going on about 'Sunday schalggs'.
That's not the level of discourse I'm willing to accept.
2. I have insisted severally that he should face punishment if found guilty
3. You raised a point about "a coven"
4. I referenced the Mendy case
5. Again, I submit: full penalty if found guilty.
jayb99 @ 11:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to citizenerased1:
A lot of lads deeply concerned about the welfare of the player rather than the potential victims.
kleinfeld @ 11:49 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to viegunner:
one thing that makes me wonder whether arsenal did know something in advance is that partey's contract ended on 30th june but they didn't comment on that in any official way in the days after – like w...
citizenerased1 @ 11:49 | Jul 5, 2025
A lot of lads deeply concerned about the welfare of the player rather than the potential victims.
citizenerased1 @ 11:48 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to viegunner:
anyone?
isawjjscore @ 11:46 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
Enough
myleftwingfoot @ 11:46 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to viegunner:
one thing that makes me wonder whether arsenal did know something in advance is that partey's contract ended on 30th june but they didn't comment on that in any official way in the days after – like w...
arseblog1 @ 11:46 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to saps:
Why?
Because I think he should have his day in court?
Innocent until proven guilty?
But we're talking about very serious crimes and you're going on about 'Sunday schalggs'.
That's not the level of discourse I'm willing to accept.
saps @ 11:44 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
Enough
Because I think he should have his day in court?
Innocent until proven guilty?
viegunner @ 11:43 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to viegunner:
one thing that makes me wonder whether arsenal did know something in advance is that partey's contract ended on 30th june but they didn't comment on that in any official way in the days after – like w...
arseblog1 @ 11:43 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to saps:
Sunday schalggs whatsapp group is a real thing
saps @ 11:42 | Jul 5, 2025
Sunday schalggs whatsapp group is a real thing
arseblog1 @ 11:38 | Jul 5, 2025
Oh sorry, I guess these five unconnected women just got together in their witch's coven ...
Give me a break
Give me a break
saps @ 11:38 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
You're worrying a lot more about a footballer than at least five potential victims
The tone of the conversation about The Arsenal is that we were wrong to have stood by him previously. That implies Partey's guilt.
Judgement already passed, awaiting rubber stamp.by the courts.
abee @ 11:37 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
I'm not really sure how this observation differs from my argument.
In relation to the assertion of 50% of those found guilty of rape being innocent, I have my doubts of that being representative of ...
Mainly my point is let justice take its due course. Dont tarnish a person until he is proven guilty at which point u can castrate him but what if he turns out to be innocent then the blemish u put on him today will you be able to remove it no.
Innocent people who are falsely accused even when they are proven innocent it doesn't change anything they are still treated as criminals in the eye of the public Lives are wrecked.
viegunner @ 11:35 | Jul 5, 2025
one thing that makes me wonder whether arsenal did know something in advance is that partey's contract ended on 30th june but they didn't comment on that in any official way in the days after – like with tierney or tomiyasu.
isn't that a bit unusual, given the calibre of the player?
isn't that a bit unusual, given the calibre of the player?
arseblog1 @ 11:34 | Jul 5, 2025
You're worrying a lot more about a footballer than at least five potential victims
saps @ 11:34 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
False accusations are terrible, but a tiny percentage of the actual sexual assaults that are carried out.
I don't really understand why – when a successful man is accused of something like this – the...
Motive for accusation.
1. The incident happened
2. Money
3. Ego
The Neymar video showed him rejecting her advances.
Next you know, rape accusation.
Let the situation play out.
If guilty, face the punishment.
If innocent, what then?
Wages lost. Mental health challenges. Kids already shunned in school?
arseblog1 @ 11:32 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
I'm going to walk the dog.
I'm sure that is of great interest to everyone and that a great wailing and gnashing of teeth will follow my sbsence.
mike1 @ 11:32 | Jul 5, 2025
I'm going to walk the dog.
I'm sure that is of great interest to everyone and that a great wailing and gnashing of teeth will follow my sbsence.
I'm sure that is of great interest to everyone and that a great wailing and gnashing of teeth will follow my sbsence.
gigity1107 @ 11:31 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
Not helpful. That reasoning ends up in a terrible conclusion. This is essentially what drives trial by media.
Whether the person accused is well-liked or socially adept is not a basis to give support...
I think they did.
arseblog1 @ 11:28 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to saps:
2020.
A young man with previously unknown mental health challenges refused the advances of a female.
She rushed to twitter and accused him of sexual harassment.
Backlash. Especially from feminist g...
This constant muddying of the waters with scenarios like this is not helpful
jayb99 @ 11:28 | Jul 5, 2025
Great post from Blogs - I think he nails it. I am devastated by the way the club has behaved over this matter. Offering Partey a new contract in these circumstances was as unforgivable as it was stupid.
myleftwingfoot @ 11:27 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to isawjjscore:
From time to time, I am asked to provide expert witness testimony to judicial review proceedings.
The barrister who brings me most of this work is, contrary to the popular view of lawyers, an excepti...
saps @ 11:25 | Jul 5, 2025
2020.
A young man with previously unknown mental health challenges refused the advances of a female.
She rushed to twitter and accused him of sexual harassment.
Backlash. Especially from feminist groups. He tries to defend himself, outnumbered.
Man couldn't handle the strain, committed suicide.
Then the truth comes out.
Accuser and her supporter(s) slink away, lad gets grounded- permanently.
Life goes on.
The motive wasn't even money. Hurt ego.
A young man with previously unknown mental health challenges refused the advances of a female.
She rushed to twitter and accused him of sexual harassment.
Backlash. Especially from feminist groups. He tries to defend himself, outnumbered.
Man couldn't handle the strain, committed suicide.
Then the truth comes out.
Accuser and her supporter(s) slink away, lad gets grounded- permanently.
Life goes on.
The motive wasn't even money. Hurt ego.
mike1 @ 11:24 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to isawjjscore:
From time to time, I am asked to provide expert witness testimony to judicial review proceedings.
The barrister who brings me most of this work is, contrary to the popular view of lawyers, an excepti...
I had similar advice from a barrister
isawjjscore @ 11:22 | Jul 5, 2025
From time to time, I am asked to provide expert witness testimony to judicial review proceedings.
The barrister who brings me most of this work is, contrary to the popular view of lawyers, an exceptionally blunt individual with a wonderfully economical communication style.
Prior to my first time giving evidence, I was expecting him to coach me through tactics, scenarios, questioning styles, etc. Instead he pulled me aside just before the session started and said: “If you can’t support what you are saying with unambiguous facts, shut the fuck up.”
So that is what I shall do today because, even though the implications for the club that I have followed for nearly 50 years are so disturbing, I am in no position do otherwise. I hope others do likewise before conjecture leads to division.
The barrister who brings me most of this work is, contrary to the popular view of lawyers, an exceptionally blunt individual with a wonderfully economical communication style.
Prior to my first time giving evidence, I was expecting him to coach me through tactics, scenarios, questioning styles, etc. Instead he pulled me aside just before the session started and said: “If you can’t support what you are saying with unambiguous facts, shut the fuck up.”
So that is what I shall do today because, even though the implications for the club that I have followed for nearly 50 years are so disturbing, I am in no position do otherwise. I hope others do likewise before conjecture leads to division.
mike1 @ 11:20 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
Well I agree. But it doesn't answer the question of what to do with a player who at the time had one accusation against him. As I've said previously. What would you do if you had a trusted, and yes, v...
Whether the person accused is well-liked or socially adept is not a basis to give support. Many miscarriages of justice are based on emotional responses.
Someone may lie about his work but not have committed a crime. The opposite is true.
The process must wind its way to conclusion and the prosecution must prove its case. Guilty or not guilty. Innocence is not proved. That is a different and it is not relevant to the process - a difficult thing to accept for those wrongly accused.
The point remains the same: the club has a wider duty of care.
saps @ 11:16 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
It is not one accusation though. It is a series of accusations made over a period of time by MULTIPLE women. That is not a good sign even if the case goes in the accused's favor. The fact that Arsenal...
The Mendy case was an eye opener. His accusers had a WhatsApp group or something like that.
I remember reading the messages, one of them had eyes on Grealish and asked another girl about his prowess.
Most people talking about his accusers/ alleged victims. Few talking about the mental strain that comes with being accused of rape and sexual assault. Especially if innocent.
Let the court judge. The Arsenal (rightly, in my opinion) presumed his innocence.
mike1 @ 11:12 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to abee:
Ive served time behind bars, the ratio of guilty rapists and innocents false accused of rape is almost 50/50. Let due process take time and then Judge and Accuse. Innocent lives are shattered forever ...
In relation to the assertion of 50% of those found guilty of rape being innocent, I have my doubts of that being representative of those convicted of this offence
kleinfeld @ 11:12 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to myleftwingfoot:
We're going to end up with Watkins and Madueke.
gigity1107 @ 11:11 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
It's a very difficult time for those involved, but it's not for the club to "take sides" or make assumptions of "guilt" - see previous points about establishing guilt and it not equating to innocence....
'No, fuck off. You're dead to me now"
I don't think so. You believe your friend, your colleague and have his back.
That's what any decent person would do.
Now of he's a lying piece of sh*t. That's a different story. But we won't know that till a trial is concluded.
spanishbill @ 11:09 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to saps:
Backarsed.
Thank you, Gigity.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Imagine your parent, sibling or friend getting binned at work and shunned over an accusation.
Let the law take its course.
If guilty, ...
As I intimated earlier, the uproar seems to be more about expressing solidarity for the victim due to broader issues of structural misogyny than it is about issues of specific justice.
He was arrested and investigated, not charged, until now.
The timing is curious. Hopefully, the police will one day explain this.
But in general I'm fine with how Arsenal have handled this. In hindsight, the contract offer was not wise, but that it was made also serves to underline that charges were not thought to be forthcoming based on the available police information and legal advice.
mike1 @ 11:08 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to paulo:
Spot on. Demanding instant justice based on accusations is akin to a KKK lynch mob.
Really, the subject area needs a far more balanced and nuanced debate
myleftwingfoot @ 11:06 | Jul 5, 2025
We're going to end up with Watkins and Madueke.
shrek2be @ 11:03 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to saps:
Backarsed.
Thank you, Gigity.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Imagine your parent, sibling or friend getting binned at work and shunned over an accusation.
Let the law take its course.
If guilty, ...
abee @ 11:02 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
Jeez
No one is 'assuming guilt'.
Andrew Ive been reading this blog since the days of the 2002 and ive always found you a sensible individual which is why i love your work, but i expected more from you, you cant go out accusing the club of Partey outright let due process take time.
Take it from a person who has served time behind bars. There are too many falsely accused people behind bars just because once rape is cried the public judge jury executioner all rush with pitchforks.
paulo @ 11:02 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to ganpati23:
As he has not been found guilty by a court of law, he is innocent no matter what you think.
The only people who can decide are the jury and the evidence they are allowed to see has to be agreed betwe...
mike1 @ 11:01 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
Yes, you do seem to be struggling.
What do you do with the player while not taking sides? If you let him go, you ruin him. When at the end of the day he might not be at fault.
Simplifying complex problems inevitably leads to a wrong decision. Conflating different arguments and responsibilities achieves the same.
saps @ 11:00 | Jul 5, 2025
Backarsed.
Thank you, Gigity.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Imagine your parent, sibling or friend getting binned at work and shunned over an accusation.
Let the law take its course.
If guilty, he should be punished to the letter.
Thank you, Gigity.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Imagine your parent, sibling or friend getting binned at work and shunned over an accusation.
Let the law take its course.
If guilty, he should be punished to the letter.
mike1 @ 10:57 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to paulo:
I can't believe what I read here. Due process is not just about the courts. Its life and it's about fairness.
So suppose someone or some people get together to falsely accuse you of a sexual crime. Y...
No one is 'assuming guilt'.
gigity1107 @ 10:57 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
The length of time of the police investigation is irrelevant to the points made. The club should not be 'siding with' the player or be accused of 'siding with' the accuser.
It can offer 'support' for...
What do you do with the player while not taking sides? If you let him go, you ruin him. When at the end of the day he might not be at fault.
paulo @ 10:56 | Jul 5, 2025
I can't believe what I read here. Due process is not just about the courts. Its life and it's about fairness.
So suppose someone or some people get together to falsely accuse you of a sexual crime. You must lose your job immediately? Really?Women do sometimes lie, especially if there is a financial incentive. I'm not saying that's the case here but if the player has denied the accusations and there may not be convincing evidence, how can you assume guilt?
So suppose someone or some people get together to falsely accuse you of a sexual crime. You must lose your job immediately? Really?Women do sometimes lie, especially if there is a financial incentive. I'm not saying that's the case here but if the player has denied the accusations and there may not be convincing evidence, how can you assume guilt?
mike1 @ 10:56 | Jul 5, 2025
I totally understand the upset and controversy around Partey but part if me feels aggrieved that it's obliterated any focus on Tomyiasu.
The club has lost two really special players in Tierney and Tomyiasu. No one has a bad word to say about them, both their careers have been blighted by injury. At the same time, Jorginho has left.
Three consummate professionals.
The club has lost two really special players in Tierney and Tomyiasu. No one has a bad word to say about them, both their careers have been blighted by injury. At the same time, Jorginho has left.
Three consummate professionals.
spanishbill @ 10:55 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
The length of time of the police investigation is irrelevant to the points made. The club should not be 'siding with' the player or be accused of 'siding with' the accuser.
It can offer 'support' for...
catfishstgermain @ 10:53 | Jul 5, 2025
It's incredibly difficult to get a rape conviction. I think the 'motives' when told you can take this bribe, one which would not be needed had my client not raped you, or you can be destroyed in court by my multi millionaire clients lawyers feel pretty clear.
I've seen the messages exchanged in the Partey case, i saw the messages and heard the recordings in the Greenwood case, seen the Ronaldo statement he made at the time.
Don't need the 'well actually...' to make my own mind up really.
I've seen the messages exchanged in the Partey case, i saw the messages and heard the recordings in the Greenwood case, seen the Ronaldo statement he made at the time.
Don't need the 'well actually...' to make my own mind up really.
mike1 @ 10:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
Easy to say. But the investigation took 3 years to get to this point. What do you do with the 3 years in the meantime?
It can offer 'support' for the wellbeing of the player.
I'm not sure why this is difficult to understand
catfishstgermain @ 10:44 | Jul 5, 2025
Would stop being devils advocate i reckon
gigity1107 @ 10:39 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
Gigity, it is not the role of the club to 'support' the accused or 'side with' the alleged victim. The police will investigate and the court pro ess will determine whether the allegation have been pro...
gigity1107 @ 10:37 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
"Wasn't Ronaldo accused a few years back? Nothing came of that, that i recall. "
He paid off the woman
Look, just being devil's advocate here.
mike1 @ 10:31 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
Wasn't Ronaldo accused a few years back? Nothing came of that, that i recall.
I just think, if you don't support the player. Then your siding with the accuser. Unless there's evidence one way or ano...
The discussion around the club (or supporters) 'siding' with the accuser or accused is wrong-headed and divisive.
mike1 @ 10:27 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
"Not guilty" is NOT the same being as being innocent
The accused is innocent until proved guilty, but the process that determines guilt (the courts with a jury) determine if the prosecution has proved guilt beyond reasonable doubt. The judgement is either guilty (prosecution has proved its case) or not guilty (the prosecution has not proved its case).
So, a person can be innocent as the jury has not proved its case, nearing that tje status of the person who had been accused of an offence has not changed, but the PROCESS (the decision made by the jury) has merely found the accused not guilty of a high threshold of proof).
It may sound pedantic (something I can't claim 'innocence') but it's a very important distinction. That's why civil cases can succeed, because there is a lower threshold of proof which can determine guilt.
gigity1107 @ 10:25 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
The club must have known it was a possibility, but decided it was worth the risk.
lukas @ 10:24 | Jul 5, 2025
As an Arsenal and Bologna fan, I am a huge fan of Tomiyasu so really sad to see him leave the club. Wishing him all the best in the future, and I hope he can somehow get back to fitness and play professional football again.
gigity1107 @ 10:23 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
"But it happens enough in football that the tiny percentage isn't so tiny anymore."
Does it?
I just think, if you don't support the player. Then your siding with the accuser. Unless there's evidence one way or another and that wont be known till the trial. If it's their word against your word etc. How can you be so quick to cut them lose?
kleinfeld @ 10:22 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
Or neither the club nor Partey saw the charges coming.
gigity1107 @ 10:15 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
As much as Partey is a top class midfielder, the fact his contract was up and he is also 32 - this was an 'out' for the club.
Instead we decided to make a rod for our own back by actually chasing him...
shrek2be @ 10:10 | Jul 5, 2025
"Not guilty" is NOT the same being as being innocent
mrswoo @ 10:10 | Jul 5, 2025
Ruined by my usual typo.Soz, just when I was being serious.
s.p2 @ 10:09 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
As much as Partey is a top class midfielder, the fact his contract was up and he is also 32 - this was an 'out' for the club.
Instead we decided to make a rod for our own back by actually chasing him...
mrswoo @ 10:08 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to brucelee4ever:
Morning cunts😉
kleinfeld @ 10:08 | Jul 5, 2025
As much as Partey is a top class midfielder, the fact his contract was up and he is also 32 - this was an 'out' for the club.
Instead we decided to make a rod for our own back by actually chasing him to re sign. Partey also apparently asking for more money shows that he has the brains of a pork sausage.
Instead we decided to make a rod for our own back by actually chasing him to re sign. Partey also apparently asking for more money shows that he has the brains of a pork sausage.
arseblog1 @ 10:07 | Jul 5, 2025
"But it happens enough in football that the tiny percentage isn't so tiny anymore."
Does it?
Does it?
gigity1107 @ 10:07 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
False accusations are terrible, but a tiny percentage of the actual sexual assaults that are carried out.
I don't really understand why – when a successful man is accused of something like this – the...
And it is a big 'if'. But it happens enough in football that the tiny percentage isn't so tiny anymore.
My whole point isn't to defend a rapist. If he's guilty. I hope he gets what he deserves. But I think in these cases that are always going to be high profile. If, the club drop him, sack him or whatever. That's tantamount to ending his career
Before there's even been a trial.
s.p2 @ 10:04 | Jul 5, 2025
United suspended Greenwood from training before eventually selling him. I think they put out a statement predating commencement of legal proceedings as well.
I’m not saying it’s exemplar procedure but at least they formally acknowledged the issue. If it’s already in the public domain (not that that should be the pretext), defaulting is high risk and shows a lack of circumspection.
I’m not saying it’s exemplar procedure but at least they formally acknowledged the issue. If it’s already in the public domain (not that that should be the pretext), defaulting is high risk and shows a lack of circumspection.
ganpati23 @ 10:01 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to nelodela:
"Gylfi Sigurdsson
Charged with Pedophila
Court of public opinion GUILTY
Court of law verdict INNOCENT
Missed 3 years of football
Career down the drain never recovered
Benjamin Mendy
Accused o...
shrek2be @ 09:59 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to ganpati23:
As he has not been found guilty by a court of law, he is innocent no matter what you think.
The only people who can decide are the jury and the evidence they are allowed to see has to be agreed betwe...
Do you really want Arsenal Football Club to be associated with a person who has been accused not by one person but FIVE people of horrible crimes?
gigity1107 @ 09:58 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
I don't mean just footballing staff
But I'd like to think that if there were other employees, who felt threatened by him. Then the club would have acted. But if they just don't feel comfortable. Then thats more a 'them' problem.
citizenerased1 @ 09:58 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to ganpati23:
As he has not been found guilty by a court of law, he is innocent no matter what you think.
The only people who can decide are the jury and the evidence they are allowed to see has to be agreed betwe...
arseblog1 @ 09:56 | Jul 5, 2025
"he has not been found guilty by a court of law, he is innocent no matter what you think."
It was on tape. His partner withdrew the claim, so they couldn't prosecute. It doesn't make him innocent.
Lots of people have committed crimes they haven't been prosecuted for, or found guilty of (OJ SIMPSON!). It doesn't make them innocent.
It was on tape. His partner withdrew the claim, so they couldn't prosecute. It doesn't make him innocent.
Lots of people have committed crimes they haven't been prosecuted for, or found guilty of (OJ SIMPSON!). It doesn't make them innocent.
arseblog1 @ 09:55 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
I see what you did there...
But seriously. I've seen the other end of what false accusations can do. And there are no winners.
I don't really understand why – when a successful man is accused of something like this – there's always someone who will presume it's a false accusation. Some crazy woman just out to get him.
ganpati23 @ 09:54 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to citizenerased1:
Greenwood never even went to court but he is also not innocent. What an absolutely bizarre post.
The only people who can decide are the jury and the evidence they are allowed to see has to be agreed between defence and prosecution in advance with the judge deciding when they don't agree.
That is the way our legal system works. Not trial by social media when people aren't in full possession of the agreed facts.
s.p2 @ 09:53 | Jul 5, 2025
* Pre-emptive
s.p2 @ 09:53 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
I wouldn't completely disagree with that. But we have the luxury of being able to see on a weekly basis what his teammates thought of him.
Nothing ever gave me the impression, any of them were recoil...
I take your point that sometimes these things can become pre-emotive witch-hunts but the club did not operate properly here.
gigity1107 @ 09:53 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to s.p2:
Gigity inhabiting a bit of a moral quagmire, in a manner of speaking.
But seriously. I've seen the other end of what false accusations can do. And there are no winners.
citizenerased1 @ 09:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
I wouldn't completely disagree with that. But we have the luxury of being able to see on a weekly basis what his teammates thought of him.
Nothing ever gave me the impression, any of them were recoil...
ganpati23 @ 09:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to optimist:
“Greenwood was arrested in January 2022 and charged with attempted rape, assault, and coercive behaviour. The Crown Prosecution Service discontinued the case in February 2023, stating there was “no lo...
mike1 @ 09:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
I wouldn't completely disagree with that. But we have the luxury of being able to see on a weekly basis what his teammates thought of him.
Nothing ever gave me the impression, any of them were recoil...
citizenerased1 @ 09:50 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to optimist:
“Greenwood was arrested in January 2022 and charged with attempted rape, assault, and coercive behaviour. The Crown Prosecution Service discontinued the case in February 2023, stating there was “no lo...
gigity1107 @ 09:49 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to mike1:
Actually gigity, the issue of other staff being uncomfortable would be part of the duty of care considerations for the employer.
It's a mistake to think in simple binary terms about the legal options...
Nothing ever gave me the impression, any of them were recoiling against him.
kleinfeld @ 09:48 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to shrek2be:
It is one thing to be accused of a horrible crime perpetrated against 1 woman but there are multiple charges here with multiple women.... that is a pattern...
Arteta and the club will be questione...
optimist @ 09:48 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to citizenerased1:
Greenwood never even went to court but he is also not innocent. What an absolutely bizarre post.
Not guilty. Got to exactly the same stage as Partey.
s.p2 @ 09:48 | Jul 5, 2025
Gigity inhabiting a bit of a moral quagmire, in a manner of speaking.
kleinfeld @ 09:47 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to hazza:
Yeah, I never said he was guilty or not guilty... Only that will be decided in court in front of a judge and jury...
mike1 @ 09:46 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
Well, just so long as you're comfortable then.
It's a mistake to think in simple binary terms about the legal options and consequences of this case.
shrek2be @ 09:46 | Jul 5, 2025
It is one thing to be accused of a horrible crime perpetrated against 1 woman but there are multiple charges here with multiple women.... that is a pattern...
Arteta and the club will be questioned relentlessly on this and they should...
Arteta and the club will be questioned relentlessly on this and they should...
hazza @ 09:45 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to optimist:
It still does not mean that he is guilty, or will be found guilty in court. The list of players who have been found not-guilty after being hung drawn and quartered by the media, fans and their own clu...
ganpati23 @ 09:43 | Jul 5, 2025
To play devil's advocate, we have to remember that in this country you are innocent until proven guilty.
{And the fact that the club were going to offer him a new contract suggests they believed him when he said he was innocent. There is no way we'd take up a squad place costing hundreds of grand a week if we thought we were at risk of him getting banged up.}
To be clear, I am not in any way suggesting that his victims are lying.
But I just want to give you one hypothetical.
Imagine there's a girl in a nightclub and Erling Haaland is there. The girl is a Gooner or a Scouser. She's pissed and can be a bîtch when she's drunk. She gets chatting to Halland and he responds to her with that obnoxious, arrogant attitude which he possesses.
Having followed him to a dark corner just where the CCTV stops, she then shouts that he's touched her up. She goes to the police and he is charged. Given the lack of resources, the police investigation takes ages. And it ends up her words against his.
Are you really saying that Manchester City shouldn't be allowed to play him while the investigation is ongoing?
If some drunk Sperz fan found out who you are and accused you of groping her when you were taking your dogs out for a walk, somewhere where there is no CCTV and there were no witnesses, would you stop writing the blog until you had cleared your name, even though you knew you were fully innocent?
It's not nice, but we have to have the presumption of innocence. Unlike many countries, in the UK many people are found not guilty at jury trials because it has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt. If there is any possibility they could be innocent, they have to be acquitted. It is the belief in UK common law that it is better for 99 guilty men to go free than one innocent man to be found guilty.
And you can't have people losing their jobs, whether as professional footballers or Amazon delivery drivers, simply because they have been charged with crime but not yet found guilty.
It's may stink. You may not like it. But until the British public votes to change this aspect of the legal system, them's the rules.
{Think of those two northern Irish rugby players who were acquitted of sex crimes. Should they have lost their jobs in the interim?}
I accept that it must be horrific for victims. And that in cases like this, where there are no witnesses, it becomes increasingly tricky to prove beyond reasonable doubt, making it even worse for them.
Sadly, a tiny minority of women making accusations of sexual assault have later been found to have completely made it up out of spite. {And yes, they do make it so much worse for all the genuine victims.} Given that fact, we cannot have people losing their employment until they have been found guilty by a court of law.
Sorry, but that's the way it is. As Danny the Drug Dealer said in Withnail & I, law appeals to me, actually.
{And the fact that the club were going to offer him a new contract suggests they believed him when he said he was innocent. There is no way we'd take up a squad place costing hundreds of grand a week if we thought we were at risk of him getting banged up.}
To be clear, I am not in any way suggesting that his victims are lying.
But I just want to give you one hypothetical.
Imagine there's a girl in a nightclub and Erling Haaland is there. The girl is a Gooner or a Scouser. She's pissed and can be a bîtch when she's drunk. She gets chatting to Halland and he responds to her with that obnoxious, arrogant attitude which he possesses.
Having followed him to a dark corner just where the CCTV stops, she then shouts that he's touched her up. She goes to the police and he is charged. Given the lack of resources, the police investigation takes ages. And it ends up her words against his.
Are you really saying that Manchester City shouldn't be allowed to play him while the investigation is ongoing?
If some drunk Sperz fan found out who you are and accused you of groping her when you were taking your dogs out for a walk, somewhere where there is no CCTV and there were no witnesses, would you stop writing the blog until you had cleared your name, even though you knew you were fully innocent?
It's not nice, but we have to have the presumption of innocence. Unlike many countries, in the UK many people are found not guilty at jury trials because it has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt. If there is any possibility they could be innocent, they have to be acquitted. It is the belief in UK common law that it is better for 99 guilty men to go free than one innocent man to be found guilty.
And you can't have people losing their jobs, whether as professional footballers or Amazon delivery drivers, simply because they have been charged with crime but not yet found guilty.
It's may stink. You may not like it. But until the British public votes to change this aspect of the legal system, them's the rules.
{Think of those two northern Irish rugby players who were acquitted of sex crimes. Should they have lost their jobs in the interim?}
I accept that it must be horrific for victims. And that in cases like this, where there are no witnesses, it becomes increasingly tricky to prove beyond reasonable doubt, making it even worse for them.
Sadly, a tiny minority of women making accusations of sexual assault have later been found to have completely made it up out of spite. {And yes, they do make it so much worse for all the genuine victims.} Given that fact, we cannot have people losing their employment until they have been found guilty by a court of law.
Sorry, but that's the way it is. As Danny the Drug Dealer said in Withnail & I, law appeals to me, actually.
s.p2 @ 09:41 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
Well, just so long as you're comfortable then.
citizenerased1 @ 09:40 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to optimist:
It still does not mean that he is guilty, or will be found guilty in court. The list of players who have been found not-guilty after being hung drawn and quartered by the media, fans and their own clu...
henry14 @ 09:40 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to arseblog1:
And he has been accused of rape and sexual assault by five different women - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn858080e9xo
gigity1107 @ 09:40 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to s.p2:
I’m not sure I’d be comfortable seeing a colleague facing accusations of that magnitude continually working in the office.
hazza @ 09:40 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
You don't get bailed until after you've been charged. And he wasn't charged till yesterday. So previously, he was released without charge.
s.p2 @ 09:39 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to optimist:
It still does not mean that he is guilty, or will be found guilty in court. The list of players who have been found not-guilty after being hung drawn and quartered by the media, fans and their own clu...
mike1 @ 09:39 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
The way I see it. I'd like to think that if I was accused of anything. I'd like to think that the people I work closely with, every day of the week. Would have my back until a verdict, or an admission...
s.p2 @ 09:34 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
The way I see it. I'd like to think that if I was accused of anything. I'd like to think that the people I work closely with, every day of the week. Would have my back until a verdict, or an admission...
hazza @ 09:33 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to kleinfeld:
Maybe someone at the top needs to go over this shite
gigity1107 @ 09:28 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to s.p2:
That’s one for blogs, then, as I’m quoting him…
The point is that this issue wasn’t handled with anywhere near enough sensitivity and purpose.
Oh and by the way. If they didn't. And sacked me or forced a resignation. Then if a not guilty came in or charges are dropped. I'd be suing their arses (no pun) off.
mike1 @ 09:27 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to iclass:
It won’t be the end of his career. The Saudi clubs won’t give a toss if he’s found not guilty and is free to play. However what will probably impact on his career is the length of time the case might ...
The impetus for the obscene levels of cash being used in sport is generally interpreted as sports washing. Signing Partey would bring a lot of attention on this venture and would undermine its goal.
optimist @ 09:27 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to hazza:
The evidence that the police have gathered throughout their investigation has enough weight and the CPS deem it worthy enough to charge him with said crimes.
Greenwood was not guilty. Mendy was not guilty.
If Saka is accused next week, do we terminate his contract immediately?
s.p2 @ 09:27 | Jul 5, 2025
Gardening leave would have actually made sense. Fundamentally, the club extricated themselves from the situation… or at least gave a very strong impression that they did.
arseblog1 @ 09:26 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to henry14:
I completely agree with that. I dont think that club did anything wrong and also for Thomas, he cannot be accused of anything until proven, its that simple.
arseblog1 @ 09:25 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to henry14:
I completely agree with that. I dont think that club did anything wrong and also for Thomas, he cannot be accused of anything until proven, its that simple.
arseblog1 @ 09:25 | Jul 5, 2025
henry14 @ 09:25 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
I'm not sure I've ever disagreed with anything as much on the blog as I do with the 'take' on part 2 of the blog.
I don't know whether he's guilty or not. But putting him on gardening leave or sacking...
mike1 @ 09:23 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to iclass:
Tokenism or not, I know several gay people, Arsenal supporters, who got a lot of comfort from seeing the players wearing the Rainbow laces.
mike1 @ 09:22 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to bassarse:
WiB.
I really don't understand the attempt to extend the contract. I wonder what those involved with Arsenal Woman make of it all.
We discussed it later and all the same discussion points came out that we had previously discussed: innocent until proven guilty (a very precious principle), the duty of care on the club to safeguard the employee accused and to all other employees, the club's responsibility to its reputation (essential for its commercial success), the neutral act of suspension in employment law, the issue of essentially disclosing the identity of the accused (a meaningless factor in this case as it was known), the moral duty (not a legal issue and one that can be used by either / any side). We went around in circles trying to understand the club's actions.
The one thing we both thought was totally impossible to understand was the decision to offer Partey a new contract. When I first heard about the direction of travel, I put it down to meaningless gossip, but when Arteta confirmed it at the end of the season I was shocked.
I really do think there has to be very serious questions about this - and that includes focus on the manager.
The club will have been privy to more information and a legal focus on that by experts, but at the end of the day, it's one of those situations where you don't need erudite analysis to know identify the "right thing" - and it was NOT to offer and negotiate a new contract.
iclass @ 09:22 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to s.p2:
This has club has been badly run for a while… and let’s not that pretend the Rainbow Laces stuff wasn’t tokenistic.
tbrwsk @ 09:21 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to smann2105:
I totally agree with your view of Innocent until proven guilty and somewhat surprised as Arseblog’s stance.
It will probably be the end of his career, even IF found not guilty of this heinous crime -...
innocent until proven guilty is a vehicle of the law.
this doesn’t mean the club cannot, or should not, suspend or sell the player.
more than that - you could argue that supporting him throughout the process might send a message that such accusations can be belittled - people use the argument that if the club made a call, it could be interpreted that they believe him to be guilty, but this works both ways.
this is one of the reasons why i think Arsenal failed in this situation miserably. concrete actions should have been taken months or maybe years ago to distance the club from the player.
iclass @ 09:20 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to smann2105:
I totally agree with your view of Innocent until proven guilty and somewhat surprised as Arseblog’s stance.
It will probably be the end of his career, even IF found not guilty of this heinous crime -...
optimist @ 09:18 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
I'm not sure I've ever disagreed with anything as much on the blog as I do with the 'take' on part 2 of the blog.
I don't know whether he's guilty or not. But putting him on gardening leave or sacking...
arsey @ 09:18 | Jul 5, 2025
Arsenal did the right thing. The legal system must be allowed to do its work. Thomas Partey could be guilty, or he could be the victim of a false or misunderstood allegation. Until a jury weighs the facts and evidence, we have a duty to withhold judgment. Moral outrage at accusations should not override the fundamental right to a fair trial.
s.p2 @ 09:15 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to gigity1107:
You don't get bailed until after you've been charged. And he wasn't charged till yesterday. So previously, he was released without charge.
The point is that this issue wasn’t handled with anywhere near enough sensitivity and purpose.
gigity1107 @ 09:13 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to s.p2:
‘Thomas Partey wasn’t just accused of these awful crimes, he was arrested – on multiple occasions – and played for Arsenal Football Club while out on bail’.
Club wilfully batted their eyelids.
s.p2 @ 09:07 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to smann2105:
I totally agree with your view of Innocent until proven guilty and somewhat surprised as Arseblog’s stance.
It will probably be the end of his career, even IF found not guilty of this heinous crime -...
Club wilfully batted their eyelids.
smann2105 @ 09:03 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to tbrwsk:
i’m so tired with this ‘either this or that’ line of reasoning.
the club has so many more avenues to get information from compared to us or the media. they knew what sort of information is available,...
It will probably be the end of his career, even IF found not guilty of this heinous crime - As well as living under the unimaginable stress of that stress for 3 years+ of accusations.
If guilty though, deserves everything he gets!
gigity1107 @ 09:01 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to iclass:
The Club probably only knew what the player and his agent would have told them. The police wouldn’t have shared anything with them and anything else would have been supposition, but the fact the polic...
tbrwsk @ 09:00 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to iclass:
The Club probably only knew what the player and his agent would have told them. The police wouldn’t have shared anything with them and anything else would have been supposition, but the fact the polic...
s.p2 @ 08:55 | Jul 5, 2025
This has club has been badly run for a while… and let’s not that pretend the Rainbow Laces stuff wasn’t tokenistic.
iclass @ 08:53 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to tbrwsk:
i’m so tired with this ‘either this or that’ line of reasoning.
the club has so many more avenues to get information from compared to us or the media. they knew what sort of information is available,...
nelodela @ 08:46 | Jul 5, 2025
"Gylfi Sigurdsson
Charged with Pedophila
Court of public opinion GUILTY
Court of law verdict INNOCENT
Missed 3 years of football
Career down the drain never recovered
Benjamin Mendy
Accused of rape by 6 women
Court of public opinion GUILTY
Court of law verdict INNOCENT
Missed 2 years of football
Career down the drain, never recovered
Thomas Partey deserves to face the full wrath of the law if found guilty; until then, innocent until proven guilty."
I saw the above somewhere and thought to share here as I agree with it.
However, what I definitely do not agree with is knowing the sensitivity of the situation, the Club negotiating a contract extension with Partey.
Wisdom is profitable to direct, and the Club was ill-advised in its decision to entertain a contract extension.
Charged with Pedophila
Court of public opinion GUILTY
Court of law verdict INNOCENT
Missed 3 years of football
Career down the drain never recovered
Benjamin Mendy
Accused of rape by 6 women
Court of public opinion GUILTY
Court of law verdict INNOCENT
Missed 2 years of football
Career down the drain, never recovered
Thomas Partey deserves to face the full wrath of the law if found guilty; until then, innocent until proven guilty."
I saw the above somewhere and thought to share here as I agree with it.
However, what I definitely do not agree with is knowing the sensitivity of the situation, the Club negotiating a contract extension with Partey.
Wisdom is profitable to direct, and the Club was ill-advised in its decision to entertain a contract extension.
nelodela @ 08:46 | Jul 5, 2025
"Gylfi Sigurdsson
Charged with Pedophila
Court of public opinion GUILTY
Court of law verdict INNOCENT
Missed 3 years of football
Career down the drain never recovered
Benjamin Mendy
Accused of rape by 6 women
Court of public opinion GUILTY
Court of law verdict INNOCENT
Missed 2 years of football
Career down the drain, never recovered
Thomas Partey deserves to face the full wrath of the law if found guilty; until then, innocent until proven guilty."
I saw the above somewhere and thought to share here as I agree with it.
However, what I definitely do not agree with is knowing the sensitivity of the situation, the Club negotiating a contract extension with Partey.
Wisdom is profitable to direct, and the Club was ill-advised in its decision to entertain a contract extension.
Charged with Pedophila
Court of public opinion GUILTY
Court of law verdict INNOCENT
Missed 3 years of football
Career down the drain never recovered
Benjamin Mendy
Accused of rape by 6 women
Court of public opinion GUILTY
Court of law verdict INNOCENT
Missed 2 years of football
Career down the drain, never recovered
Thomas Partey deserves to face the full wrath of the law if found guilty; until then, innocent until proven guilty."
I saw the above somewhere and thought to share here as I agree with it.
However, what I definitely do not agree with is knowing the sensitivity of the situation, the Club negotiating a contract extension with Partey.
Wisdom is profitable to direct, and the Club was ill-advised in its decision to entertain a contract extension.
tbrwsk @ 08:44 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to spanishbill:
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. There's a big difference between arrested and charged. The fact it took the police so long to charge him added to the sense that the casee might be frivolous o...
the club has so many more avenues to get information from compared to us or the media. they knew what sort of information is available, or should have, and they must have known much more that other folks.
so they knew enough to make a call for the benefit of our club and its values.
and when they didn’t, they were in a perfect position to at the very least just let him go.
they not only didn’t do anything - instead they tried to re-sign.
and this is just sad. Arsenal should be better than that.
gigity1107 @ 08:43 | Jul 5, 2025
I'm not sure I've ever disagreed with anything as much on the blog as I do with the 'take' on part 2 of the blog.
I don't know whether he's guilty or not. But putting him on gardening leave or sacking him on accusations is implying he's guilty and potentially ending a potentially innocent man's career. There have been numerous false accusations made against footballers in the past that have amounted to nothing. Probably equally as many that have proved to be true.
But I'm not a judge or a juror and neither is Arsenal. And it's been 3 years in the making. So clearly the cps weren't overly convinced in that time either.
I've had experience, not me personally, but my best friends father who was a teacher that was accused by 2 students of inappropriate behaviour towards them. It went to court and was in.front of the TV cameras before they admitted they'd made it all up. It ruined him. He couldn't work after that and was medically retired for his troubles. That kind of stain never goes away completely. So I like to wait until the courts have decided before labelling him guilty.
I think the club did the right thing. They stood by the person, the man they know. And not throw him under the bus on the word of some unknown accusers and social media reports.
Time may show that the club was wrong to support him. But for me. Innocent until proven guilty. And if he is guilty. I hope he gets the appropriate punishment. But until then!
I don't know whether he's guilty or not. But putting him on gardening leave or sacking him on accusations is implying he's guilty and potentially ending a potentially innocent man's career. There have been numerous false accusations made against footballers in the past that have amounted to nothing. Probably equally as many that have proved to be true.
But I'm not a judge or a juror and neither is Arsenal. And it's been 3 years in the making. So clearly the cps weren't overly convinced in that time either.
I've had experience, not me personally, but my best friends father who was a teacher that was accused by 2 students of inappropriate behaviour towards them. It went to court and was in.front of the TV cameras before they admitted they'd made it all up. It ruined him. He couldn't work after that and was medically retired for his troubles. That kind of stain never goes away completely. So I like to wait until the courts have decided before labelling him guilty.
I think the club did the right thing. They stood by the person, the man they know. And not throw him under the bus on the word of some unknown accusers and social media reports.
Time may show that the club was wrong to support him. But for me. Innocent until proven guilty. And if he is guilty. I hope he gets the appropriate punishment. But until then!
block93 @ 08:42 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to bassarse:
WiB.
I really don't understand the attempt to extend the contract. I wonder what those involved with Arsenal Woman make of it all.
I also feel the club has dug its heels in as this situation has become worse. One allegation being investigated is bad enough but surely the investigation of multiple allegations from multiple women could/ should have prompted a different approach.
It’s shameful. I hope the club now does some serious soul searching and takes a leading role in driving positive change.
kleinfeld @ 08:38 | Jul 5, 2025
Maybe someone at the top needs to go over this shite
spanishbill @ 08:36 | Jul 5, 2025
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. There's a big difference between arrested and charged. The fact it took the police so long to charge him added to the sense that the casee might be frivolous or weak.
Innocent until proven guilty should extend beyond the law courts because the effects can also be shown to harm an individual's rights, whether that's gainful employment or good health.
It may be a generational thing, but innocent until proven guilty is a very important principle. Society is all too ready to be judge and jury without knowing all the facts, in order to be seen to be doing the right thing, out of a sense of solidarity rather than justice.
The idea that not playing him would have outed him publicly is, I think, to easily dismissed in your blog too.
As I said, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. It is an emotive subject, I agree.
However, one thing that stinks is the timing. What's all that about? A bit convenient for the Arsenal. Was this to protect the alleged victims?
What's happening there? Smells to me.
Innocent until proven guilty should extend beyond the law courts because the effects can also be shown to harm an individual's rights, whether that's gainful employment or good health.
It may be a generational thing, but innocent until proven guilty is a very important principle. Society is all too ready to be judge and jury without knowing all the facts, in order to be seen to be doing the right thing, out of a sense of solidarity rather than justice.
The idea that not playing him would have outed him publicly is, I think, to easily dismissed in your blog too.
As I said, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. It is an emotive subject, I agree.
However, one thing that stinks is the timing. What's all that about? A bit convenient for the Arsenal. Was this to protect the alleged victims?
What's happening there? Smells to me.
chrism @ 08:28 | Jul 5, 2025
Arse. WiB.
Morning all.
Arigato Tomi-san, genkide ne.
The Partey contract extansion is an unfathomable decision by the club.
Morning all.
Arigato Tomi-san, genkide ne.
The Partey contract extansion is an unfathomable decision by the club.
wakiongo @ 08:18 | Jul 5, 2025
Oh man! This is probably the lowest I’ve felt as a fan of the club I love. The way this situation has been handled is nothing short of disgraceful, and it casts a dark shadow over everything the club stands for. Offering him a new contract makes it even much harder to forgive.
iclass @ 08:09 | Jul 5, 2025
One thing for sure, it will be a hugely high profile case. I would imagine that somewhere in the reporting someone will raise the question of how much the Club knew, both during the trial, and if guilty definitely after the verdict
hazza @ 07:55 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to optimist:
Can I check one thing with you guys please, to help my understanding of all this. When it says ‘charged by the Met police’ - does that mean accused? Or accused, evidence gathered, found guilty in a co...
hazza @ 07:53 | Jul 5, 2025
Suberb piece Andrew, thank you.
Extremely sad for Tomi and fucking outraged that they even were considering extending that utter cunt despite knowing what he'd been accused of is just shocking.
Extremely sad for Tomi and fucking outraged that they even were considering extending that utter cunt despite knowing what he'd been accused of is just shocking.
nik @ 07:50 | Jul 5, 2025
grrrrrrrrrrr
iclass @ 07:47 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to emmet:
Arse. FoB
Gosh damn, Bruce really is quick on the draw. Thought I was being cheeky checking the blog before bed instead of in the morning and when I saw “posted 23 seconds ago” that I could get the ...
Well in emmet…..fuck off Bruce
nik @ 07:46 | Jul 5, 2025
Arse!
No need for that language, Bruce!
Morning all!
No need for that language, Bruce!
Morning all!
arseblog1 @ 07:46 | Jul 5, 2025
Reply to optimist:
Can I check one thing with you guys please, to help my understanding of all this. When it says ‘charged by the Met police’ - does that mean accused? Or accused, evidence gathered, found guilty in a co...
optimist @ 07:45 | Jul 5, 2025
Can I check one thing with you guys please, to help my understanding of all this. When it says ‘charged by the Met police’ - does that mean accused? Or accused, evidence gathered, found guilty in a court of law?
Is the court part to come later?
Thank you
Is the court part to come later?
Thank you
pppontus @ 07:41 | Jul 5, 2025
Well blogged blogs.
bassarse @ 07:39 | Jul 5, 2025
WiB.
I really don't understand the attempt to extend the contract. I wonder what those involved with Arsenal Woman make of it all.
I really don't understand the attempt to extend the contract. I wonder what those involved with Arsenal Woman make of it all.
citizenerased1 @ 07:32 | Jul 5, 2025
Great piece blogs.
Womens aid is a great cause as well in the links.
Womens aid is a great cause as well in the links.
hazza @ 07:31 | Jul 5, 2025
Arse!
Fuck off Bruce.
Fuck off Bruce.
doonhamer @ 07:31 | Jul 5, 2025
WiB
Morning Blogs, you've summed things up perfectly in both Part 1 and Part 2 of today's blog.
From the Club doing the decent thing with a player and in everybody's best interests, to the Club just looking after its own interests. The latter is just shameful.
Morning Blogs, you've summed things up perfectly in both Part 1 and Part 2 of today's blog.
From the Club doing the decent thing with a player and in everybody's best interests, to the Club just looking after its own interests. The latter is just shameful.
emmet @ 07:20 | Jul 5, 2025
Arse. FoB
Gosh damn, Bruce really is quick on the draw. Thought I was being cheeky checking the blog before bed instead of in the morning and when I saw “posted 23 seconds ago” that I could get the first arse. Dammit Bruce!
Gosh damn, Bruce really is quick on the draw. Thought I was being cheeky checking the blog before bed instead of in the morning and when I saw “posted 23 seconds ago” that I could get the first arse. Dammit Bruce!
brucelee4ever @ 07:18 | Jul 5, 2025
Yes, gutted about Tommy.
brucelee4ever @ 07:17 | Jul 5, 2025
Cheers blogs
Hello Team
Hello Team
brucelee4ever @ 07:17 | Jul 5, 2025
Morning cunts😉